Last month, I dropped a bomb on the podcast app developer community with my article entitled Unlocking the Potential of Fiction Podcasts: A Call to Podcast App Developers, where I spent some 5,000+ words illustrating what key features fiction podcast listeners need from app developers to improve the listening experience, especially for people new to podcasting who start off listening to a fiction podcast and not a standard episodic podcast.
I expected a lot of pushback, but I instead received several compliments on my in-depth research. And three different developers reached out to me directly, all vowing to take my suggestions to heart an include them in a future build. Hooray!
This month, Iâm again taking pen to paper (read: fingers to keyboard) on the same topic, but with a different target audience: You, the fiction podcast listener. And more specificallyâyou, the fiction podcast listener who is very new to podcasting. My intent with this article is to tell you, very clearly, which podcast listening app is best for you as of right now, May 2024.
Because this article is for listeners more than it is for developers, Iâm focusing just on the key attributes that matter the most to the overall listening experience. Yes, many apps do some amazing things. But this article isnât about bells, whistles, or new featuresâitâs only about the fiction podcast listening experience. As such, my rubric is slightly different this time, as Iâm keying on the following:
Also, a note to listeners who are already in love with their chosen listening app, who perhaps hundreds of shows in their library, who have spent a lot of time tweaking the settings of their preferred app to get it fined-tuned just the way they wantâthis article is not for you. Youâre fine using what you have. Though, if you want to see how much of that you didnât need to do (at least for fiction podcast listening), read on.
One final nota bene before I get startedâI do not own an Android phone. I only own an iPhone, so you will only see apps on this list for iOS. If that causes you strife, đ¤ˇââď¸.
Hereâs a full view of just the apps mentioned in this article, with all attributes displayed:
Yes, thatâs quite small. But you need not focus on it, because in the sections below, Iâll go into detail on each app, highlighting which of those attributes it does well and where it falls short. Again, viewed from the perspective of a person quite new to fiction podcast listening.
Hereâs a view zoomed in on just the most important stuff:
Oh, thatâs better. As you can see, Iâve sorted the attributes by importance scale, moving from left to right. If an app nails a listed attribute, it gets a score of zero and a green background. Total misses get a score of 2 and a red background. And the ones that kinda-sorta get it right have a score of 1 and have a yellow background. I do some math, then come up with the overall score as a percentage, and then sort the seven apps with the best on top.
Letâs get into it, shall we?
I struggled for way too long trying to come up with clever names for these groupings. In the end (heh), I settled on clarity over cleverness and went with the classic Good, Better, and Best. Or Best, Better, and Good in this case. But you know what I mean.
The best podcast-listening app for fiction podcasts is Apple Podcasts.
Surprise! This free iOS-only podcast-listening app nails the most important things for fiction podcast listening: Episodes are grouped and sorted by Season and Episode numbers, Bonus and Trailer episodes are moved out of the story flow for uninterrupted listening, and the app assures the listener they are, in fact, listening in the correct order, because it displays that (those?) metadata unambiguously. Hate on Apple all you want, but you wonât find another app on this listâat least not yetâthat hits all the required marks for a fantastic listening-to-fiction-podcasts experience.
But while Apple Podcasts gets all green marks in the zoomed graph above, the longer graph shows some additional opportunities to make the app even better. Like allowing for one-click downloads of entire seasons or the entire show. Yes, there are device storage issues to consider when trying to download all seasons of Weâre Alive. I understand. Yes, wifi and wireless networks are almost everywhere. But drops happen. Airplanes without wifi happen. Enabling a one-click download of an entire fiction podcast on my device means I can keep listening regardless of connectivity. Hint, hint, Ted.
Iâm stoked that a Podcasting 2.0-enabled app is so high on the list! That app is Podverse, a free iOS, Android, and web app that groups and sorts episodes by Season and Episode numbers, and moves Bonus and Trailer episodes out of the listening-next flow. But it doesnât display Season/Episode number data to users, which impacts confidence that the listener is actually listening to the correct episode. Creators arenât infallible, and visual cues can help the listener understand when something is amiss.
Beyond that, Iâd like to see Podverse do a better job of formatting the show description. This shouldnât be too hard for them, as they do an excellent job of preserving the formatting of episode descriptions (aka âshow notesâ). The app also fails to link to the showâs website, doesnât tend to recommend other fiction podcasts, and lacks one-click download options.
Next up is an app that only includes fiction podcasts: Apollo. This free iOS and Android app relies heavily on their own human curation to group and sort episodes by Season/Episode number, and to move Bonus and Trailer episodes out of the story flow. While it doesnât display the Season or Episode numbers, Apolloâs reliance on human curation and manual sorting/filtering is a good proxyâbut only if itâs been applied to the show you want to listen to. But it does an excellent job of recommending other fiction podcasts simply because only fiction podcasts are in the app!
Some other attributes not in my main consideration set are worth mentioning. Apollo doesnât do a good job of preserving the formatting of the show description or episode details. Nor does it provide out-of-app links, either to the show website or a webpage for any episode. Apollo doesnât allow for one-click downloads, and it doesnât display episode-level artwork if itâs available.
In fourth place from my rubric is Pocket Casts, a free iOS and Android app that groups episodes by Season number, but fails to override the in-feed order by using the included Episode Numbers. It leaves Bonus and Trailer episodes where they appear in the feed, which interrupts binge-listening, as the app presents all episodes in historical feed order. So the âSorry for our delayâ episode published in 2019 still appears between episodes 9 and 10 five years later for no good reason. Pocket Casts does, however, show the Season and Episode numbers, which helps assure the listener they are, in fact, listening to the story itself in the correct order.
Additionally, Pocket Casts preserves the formatting of both show descriptions and episode details, which is quite nice to see. And best of all, a single click is all it takes to download all the episodes of a fiction podcast. No worry about dropped coverage! However, there isnât an off-app link to the podcast website or the webpage for a single episode, episode-level artwork isnât shown, and it doesnât do a great job of recommending more fiction podcasts.
Another Podcasting 2.0-enabled app is in fifth placeâPodfriend. Itâs a free web app that groups episodes by Season number and moves Trailer episodes out of the story flow, but listeners will still find Bonus episodes interrupting their listening, as the app presents all episodes in feed order. It does not display either the Season or Episode numbers either.
Additionally, while Podfriend does preserve the formatting of episode details, it doesnât do that for the show description, which is odd. Conversely, it does provide an off-app link to the show website but not to the episode webpage. It doesnât offer one-click downloads, and itâs not that great at recommending other fiction podcasts.
Lastly, in a tie for sixth place are Goodpods and Amazon Music. Both are free iOS and Android apps that do group episodes by Season numbers⌠but thatâs the only reason they made my list at all. Again, that was the table stakes (stake?). With either app, listeners will still find Trailer and Bonus episodes interrupting their listening, as the app presents all episodes in feed order. Neither display Season or Episode numbers to listeners.
However, both will display episode-level artwork if itâs present, and Amazon Music does a good job of recommending other fiction podcasts. But formatting, off-app links, and one-click download options arenât available on either.
Recall at the top of this article when I said a few developers have reached out to me. Respecting that, Iâll revisit this article as I learn ofâand verifyâupgrades that make these apps and the ones I didnât mention much better for fiction podcasters.
But Iâm not waiting. In fact, Iâve just re-formatted the show pages on The End to suggest these apps to my readers, with this nifty little design for the Certified Fiction Podcast Friendly badge:Â
Iâm no designer, but I kinda like it. At least well enough until a real designer offers up their services. đÂ
Iâll continue to make it easy to find a show in every app I can, but Iâm done carrying water for apps that just donât do a great job at presenting fiction podcasts to their users.Â
As with all things in life, your mileage may vary.
Happy listening!Â
- Evo
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This stuff is not easy. I get it. And Iâm no developer. But I do know a lot about what fiction podcast listeners want and how elements in the RSS feed can be applied. If you need help, I have very reasonable consulting rates and have sat on the Board of Advisors for podcast apps and other services previously. Letâs talk.
Apps that do a great job with fiction podcasts can only do a great job on your podcasting if you get the data right. And, without naming names, many of yâall are lazy when it comes to the technical and boring stuff like properly tagging the episodes in your feed with Season numbers, Episode numbers, episode Type, and a whole lot more. An incorrectly tagged episode or janky feed is going to have unpredictable results. Packaging is important, as I wrote in this article, and you can likely do the cleanup yourself. But if you need help, I have special rates for indie fiction podcasters and fiction podcast networks, so get in touch!